At an occasion that tends to favor these with earlier course data, Barkley Marathons first-timer Ihor Verys of Ukraine however residing in Canada received the 2024 version of the notorious occasion on March 22 in a time of 58 hours, 44 minutes, and 59 seconds.
Verys credit working along with veterans of the occasion for the early laps, operating alongside a robust group together with John Kelly and Jasmin Paris at occasions, for his personal success and that of a record-breaking variety of runners this 12 months. The relative newcomer to the game placed on a masterclass on navigating the bodily, emotional, and psychological difficulties of the occasion.
On this interview, Verys talks about his strategy to the race as a first-timer, why he thinks there have been so many finishers this 12 months, his relative newness to ultrarunning, his enjoyment of his first Barkley expertise, and whether or not he intends to return sooner or later.
Study extra about this 12 months’s Barkley Marathons in our outcomes article.
[Editor’s Note: The following interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.]
Ihor Verys (left) and Jodi Isenor, who crewed Verys, pose with the Ukrainian and Canadian flags on the 2024 Barkley Marathons end. All pictures courtesy of Ihor Verys.
iRunFar: Ihor, congratulations in your Barkley end. That’s unimaginable. How do you are feeling about that?
Ihor Verys: It’s nonetheless sinking in. It would take just a few months, possibly years. I nonetheless can’t imagine it. I nonetheless generally really feel like I’d simply get up someplace in the course of Frozen Head State Park, and I simply fell asleep and it’s all only a dream. [laughs]
iRunFar: You’ve nonetheless acquired 37 hours and an entire lot of books to go.
Verys: Yeah, I’m misplaced on the way in which to ebook 5, and I simply dreamed about ending, however actually, search and rescue has been in search of me for days now. [laughs]
iRunFar: [laughs] Nicely, it means you’re sleeping properly. Congratulations on that.
Verys: Yeah, thanks.
iRunFar: Earlier than we get into the small print, it’s actually uncommon for an individual to complete Barkley, however to complete it on their first strive. I’d love to listen to your perspective on that. What do you attribute to with the ability to end in your first time on the market?
Verys: They are saying that there are extra failers than finishers, however I at all times attempt to have a distinct mindset, wanting on the individuals who completed it and say, I do know most people fail at Barkley, however there are 17 finishers. So why can’t I be one in every of them? One in all my inspirations was Aurélien Sanchez from final 12 months. He was additionally a Barkley virgin, but he accomplished it the very first 12 months, and he completed being the primary one final 12 months. So I checked out earlier circumstances and situations, and lots of different Barkley finishers did it on their first try, and I undoubtedly derived a whole lot of inspiration from them.
In fact, I really feel prefer it can be attributed to all of the coaching and preparation that comes with gearing up for Barkley. It’s not your typical race. You possibly can’t simply present up simply having just a few miles in your legs over earlier months. It’s a must to prepare your power. It’s a must to prepare your navigation abilities, and I spent many, many months and years doing so. And after they got here all the way down to Barkley, I used to be simply prepared.
iRunFar: Yeah. It’s removed from straightforward, however do you assume it’s barely simpler that we now have 20 finishers and all of the expertise of the years of people that didn’t end, such that a whole lot of classes have been realized? As an example, did you be taught so much from earlier Barkley entrants, whether or not they’re finishers or not?
Verys: Completely, you’ll be able to undoubtedly be taught from them. I feel another excuse why we had 5 finishers this 12 months — it has nothing to do with the course being straightforward, actually, the course was more durable, new sections have been added — is simply that we labored as a workforce for the primary 4 loops. So we labored towards Barkley, and by placing all of those minds collectively, we have been in a position to accomplish such a feat as 5 finishers. It’s a historic end, and I’m actually proud to be part of it.
Ihor Verys prepping maps and ready for the conch to sound earlier than beginning the 2024 Barkley Marathons.
iRunFar: That was my first query concerning the play-by-play. That first lap it did seem to be of us have been working collectively. That was the case?
Verys: The primary loop was distinctive, in response to the veterans. As a result of it was my first 12 months, I didn’t know what to anticipate. I didn’t know the way many individuals would be capable to be within the lead pack, and we ended up having nearly 20 individuals shut collectively for many of the first loop. Once I chatted with John Kelly, I requested him, “Is it regular?” And he mentioned, “No. By now there ought to be 5 individuals most. I’ve by no means seen such a giant prepare this far into the primary loop.” I requested him, “What do you assume, is it a tricky crowd, or do you assume persons are simply operating lower than their means?” And he’s like, “Nicely, I suppose we’ll see later.” [laughs]
The group was getting smaller and smaller. And on the finish, we had this little group of seven individuals, and 6 individuals, after which simply 5 individuals that will be within the lead. Then, there was one other little group with Jared Campbell and Greig Hamilton a bit of bit behind us. They’d their very own group there. We have been attempting to stay collectively. I suppose it was John, myself, Damian Corridor, and Jasmin Paris at all times round there. And for a while, Sébastien [Raichon] from France was there as properly. Sébastien may not essentially communicate English, however we have been in a position to communicate one navigation language, which was wonderful. He helped us, we helped him, and it was teamwork. It was actually teamwork on the market, and I feel that’s why we had 5 finishers.
iRunFar: How lengthy have been you operating with individuals? I imply not essentially each minute, however for probably the most half.
Verys: Within the second loop, 5 of us completed with Sébastien, however Sébastien wished to take an extended break after that. So, for the third loop, there have been 4 of us: John, Damian, myself, and Jasmin. The 4 of us lasted fairly some time, all the way in which into the fourth loop. After which it was John, Damian, and myself on loop 4. The three of us labored collectively. Jasmin was simply behind us. Then, loop 5, we’re all on our personal. Now we have to take [alternating] instructions. That is the place true Barkley begins, on loop 5, as a result of it’s simply you and the course, and when you haven’t realized by now, Barkley will educate you a lesson.
A relaxed and composed Ihor Verys performs nighttime pit cease chores between loops.
iRunFar: Was it ideally suited timing for many of loop 5 to be in daylight?
Verys: The primary three hours have been in darkness, after which the solar got here out, stunning climate. I used to be joking that Laz[arus Lake, the race director] did the beginning in order that it ends at 5:00 p.m. so he might go to mattress proper after. [laughs]
He was like, I don’t need to cope with that in the course of the evening.
iRunFar: On that lap 4, I’m simply going again a bit of bit. Did you end up operating out in entrance alone at any level afterward loop 4?
Verys: All three of us have been collectively. I left a bit of bit early on loop 4 as a result of there was a bit of path, so I took it straightforward digesting meals that I took on the camp, and I loaded up a whole lot of energy in order that John and Damian might catch up. As soon as they caught up with me, the three of us labored collectively. I didn’t need to go alone. I used to be pretty comfy going fully alone for loop 4, however I figured if we have now this chance of working collectively for another loop, why not take it?
iRunFar: So principally, did you do the entire loop collectively?
Verys: Yeah. Loop 4 was the slowest as a result of it was the second evening. Everybody’s sleep-deprived and drained. We made a bunch of errors, however these weren’t essential errors. I feel our loop 4 was 14 hours, which could be very sluggish. However hopefully we have been in a position to repair these errors and prepare for loop 5.
iRunFar: So that you’re ending loop 4. Perhaps there’s one path that most individuals really feel is less complicated, otherwise you personally really feel is less complicated. How did you resolve who was going to get to decide on first and in what path for loop 5? Do you dash into the checkpoint to rise up first or did you really focus on it as a gaggle?
Verys: The rule is that whoever is able to depart first will get to decide on the path. I didn’t need to sleep. I simply wanted to alter socks and footwear, and I’m able to go. John wished to take a nap, as he was falling asleep a bit, and we misplaced Damian by the tip of the loop 4 within the darkness. I don’t know the place he went, however he may share that story in some unspecified time in the future. However anyway, as we have been ending up loop 4 with John, I requested him, “Is it okay? I feel I’m not going to take a whole lot of time within the camp. I’m simply going to eat, change footwear, and I’m out of right here. And I’ll take clockwise.” He mentioned, yeah, he’s wonderful with that as a result of he wished to take a break. And for me, clockwise. The rationale why I wished to take it’s as a result of I simply got here from counterclockwise, so it’s type of contemporary in my mind. I used to be considering throughout these first three evening hours, I ought to be capable to find these books. And hopefully, when the solar is out, there will probably be aid.
iRunFar: You thought that’d be simpler than, although you’d gone that final lap within the different path, it had been 14 hours plus your break that you simply had gone?
Verys: Nicely, the explanation it was 14 hours was as a result of it was evening. Night time loops are at all times slower. The counterclockwise path additionally begins with a path part. So, it’s really simpler to start with a minimum of. However then it relies upon, you recognize. Some individuals say it’s simpler, some individuals say it isn’t. I figured I’d take clockwise and take my probability on that.
iRunFar: How did that last lap go? Did you’ve got any large points or issues?
Verys: It’s humorous, I used to be telling my crew, Jodi Isenor, that the one loop the place I didn’t make errors was loop 5. Whereas I used to be very nervous as a result of I used to be on my own, I did memorize so much over the primary 4 loops. And after they got here to the purpose the place I wasn’t certain if this was the spot, I simply trusted my compass. The compass won’t ever misinform you. I relied on the compass 100%, and it didn’t let me down. There was one spot with one ebook that I overshot a bit of bit, however I used to be in a position to determine it out and retrace it again and discover it. However apart from that, I landed just about each single ebook spot on. It did take me a bit of bit longer than if I have been with another person, simply because I used to be at all times ensuring I used to be in the best path, I used to be in the best spot, confirming with a map, confirming with options, confirming with landmarks and my compass. And you recognize, when you belief your compass, it’s going to steer you to the best spot, and that’s what occurred to me.
iRunFar: You had left on loop 5 with sufficient time that you simply have been higher to confirm that you simply have been in the best spot stepping into the best path to spend a bit of bit of additional time doing that than guessing and simply trusting with out verifying.
Are there any highlights on that final loop? Something that was simply nice or stood out positively?
Verys: In the event you discover the ebook, or you recognize the place you might be, it’s simply this little child second. I’m like, Oh my gosh, I did it! Heck yeah! And it simply offers you that motivation and that power to maintain going. And you discover the second ebook and also you’re like, oh my god, I’m so good at it! It’s simply these little moments and also you’re like a bit of little one there in the course of nowhere, discovering these little books, and each time I discovered it, it simply gave me additional power for the subsequent push, although I had fairly horrible points with my toes. However it might assist me to overlook about that ache, to shelf that ache, depart it for later, and simply transfer on to the subsequent one.
Each time I did it, I used to be simply so happy with myself, happy with all the things that my crew, Jodi taught me, as a result of I knew that I used to be not doing it only for myself. I’m doing it for him. I’m doing it for Canada and Ukraine. There are such a lot of individuals which might be behind me, standing for me, cheering and supporting me, and I simply didn’t need to allow them to down. Having this thought in my head, it helped me to get by that loop alone.
iRunFar: It appeared like by the tip of the third loop your toes have been in fairly horrible form however what occurred? You had a really lengthy technique to go on unhealthy toes.
Verys: I ended up growing trench foot. I don’t know when you’re conversant in that, however I had the identical situation on the Harm [100 Mile] a few months prior, however I simply needed to go along with them from one loop there, which is like 5 hours. Hereafter loop three, I already had them, and a loop takes 12, 13, 14 hours, so you’ll be able to’t actually change your footwear and socks, usually sufficient. And my toes, I suppose they’ve child pores and skin or no matter, they usually develop these trenches.
Each step was very painful. Once I completed loop 4, I referred to as my crew, and I feel Laz heard that too as a result of he talked about it in his write-up. He really noticed my horrible toes as I took off the socks, and even Laz didn’t imagine that I might be capable to end it. I simply informed myself one step at a time, one ebook at a time, and I shelved the ache. I forgot about it for some time and I simply took it off the shelf on the finish of the race.
iRunFar: Usually, the reviews about you all through the race have been that you simply have been calm, actually clear-headed, and apart from your toes, fairly able-bodied. Had been these reviews proper or was there much more struggling happening, and also you simply have been in a position to keep calm outwardly?
Verys: I feel these reviews are pretty truthful. I didn’t have every other points. I used to be very proud of the way in which my physique responded. I had no points with diet. I had no points with sleep deprivation. Apart from my toes, my physique felt nice. I had zero cramping. My muscle tissues felt nice. I felt good climbing. My quads have been nice descending. Apart from these toes, which is nothing within the large scheme of issues. Navigation was working properly. So general, these items of the puzzle, as soon as I put them collectively and realized, you recognize what, there are such a lot of issues that might have gone mistaken, however they’re going proper. It gave me the boldness to look good, too. I suppose individuals noticed that in me after which they put it of their report.
iRunFar: Did you take pleasure in any of it?
Verys: You recognize what? I loved each single second of it. Perhaps as soon as on loop 4 in the course of the evening, we ended up within the mistaken spot — I didn’t double-check and nobody in our group double-checked. I used to be like, oh my goodness, I’ll by no means ever do it once more, silly. But it surely was very short-lived. Perhaps a pair seconds after that I simply felt so privileged to have the ability to do it.
My mindset was, I don’t should do it; I get to do it. That’s what helped me get by it. Even the evening earlier than the conch was blown, I used to be there like a bit of child sitting in my automobile. I’m like, oh my gosh, I’m within the Barkley camp, ready for the conch to be blown. This occasion has been on since 1986 and I get to be part of it. It doesn’t matter what the result’s going to be, I’m part of the Barkley household now. And that made me so blissful and so appreciative of life and this chance.
All reviews coming from the race indicated a robust and blissful Ihor. They usually have been right.
iRunFar: I heard that you simply possibly joked if you completed that the race ought to be six loops, not 5. Might you’ve got completed a sixth loop when you wanted to or have been you fairly completed at that time?
Verys: Perhaps my toes weren’t proud of that joke, however once more, the remainder of my physique felt nice. It was a joke, in fact. I simply checked out my watch and noticed that it was nonetheless sub-59 [hours]. I’m like, whoa, we acquired one other hour right here to go. So, when you throw in one other loop for 12 hours, we would be capable to try it. However once more, it’s all a joke. In fact each loop at Barkley is a grueling problem. You see that half of the sector was gone after the primary loop, and Barkley is as laborious as everybody imagines it. It’s really worse than everybody imagines it. It’s actually laborious to clarify as a result of no one’s allowed to be off-trail there. The one factor individuals see is rat jaw. And rat jaw, actually, is likely one of the best sections on the Barkley course, simply to offer the angle of how horrible the off-trail sections are. [laughs] However I actually loved it. I anticipated that. I educated on one thing like that, and after I confronted it, I used to be prepared.
iRunFar: How did you prepare for Barkley?
Verys: Nicely, residing in Chilliwack[, British Columbia], we’re blessed to have a whole lot of loopy technical trails. Tremendous steep, tremendous rocky, tremendous rooty. You don’t essentially should go off-trail, you’ll be able to simply keep on these trails. They’re fairly unhealthy, being really marked trails. So I spent a whole lot of time in my yard climbing and descending these trails, constructing these climbing legs, constructing power, ensuring I might climb and descend for lengthy hours nonstop.
I might spend a whole lot of time learning maps and doing navigational practices, which might be probably the most neglected a part of Barkley, as a result of many robust athletes can get by 4 loops, however the fifth loop if you’re by yourself and you need to know the map. It’s a must to know the compass. It’s a must to know tips on how to use it. And when you don’t have that talent, Barkley will eat you. So, I needed to prepare in a whole lot of navigational points. I signed up with the native membership and did orienteering races. I even did the Western Canadian Orienteering Championships, the place I completed second to final. It’s all about expertise. You don’t should be an ideal orienteerer at Barkley, you simply should be a great orienteerer at Barkley. After all of the months and years of coaching, this does put together you for Barkley.
Barkley is hard. The strongest and smartest on this planet, Barkley can nonetheless eat you, so you need to respect the course. You possibly can’t simply come unprepared fully. I’ve seen individuals who come who’ve by no means seen the map earlier than and who don’t use a compass, and I’m like, you recognize what? This course will destroy you. This course will eat its younger.
Individuals need to depend on others, so that they present up they usually assume they’ll latch on to veterans, however a few of the veterans are exceptionally robust and quick athletes. You are taking John Kelly, he’s an extremely match athlete. And if you wish to dangle on to him, you’ve acquired to be tremendous match. Regardless, even when you can stick to a veteran or Jared Campbell, for example, you’ll be able to stick to him for 4 loops. Nicely, very cool, however what about loop quantity 5, proper?
That is the place the race begins. Right here, you’re by yourself, and that’s how Barkley destroys so many good athletes.
iRunFar: You will have simply had nice success at Barkley, 58 hours and alter. You have been on the market with Harvey Lewis throughout his actually lengthy Huge Canine’s Yard Extremely final 12 months. You have been the second furthest ever, however you’ve additionally run 15:44 at Badger Mountain 100 Mile, right? That’s operating fairly quick over 100 miles. Do you like these many-day occasions? Or do you additionally just like the shorter, sooner stuff?
Verys: The ultrarunning scene, basically, begins from 50 kilometers on, however I discover my power in these longer occasions the place we take 100 miles and longer, particularly the programs that require power, so there will probably be technical, steep, sluggish programs. I’m not essentially a really quick individual. In the event you put me on the marathon distance, I’ll suck. However on the subject of one thing that’s going to final lengthy and I can keep a sure tempo over hours, days, and nights, I feel that’s very interesting to me.
I do actually like that feeling when all the things in your physique tells you to cease, however your thoughts overrides it, and you retain pushing and discovering new boundaries of your physique and thoughts. I actually wish to be in that house. That’s after I get a runner’s excessive. Generally I can surf that wave for hours. That’s what I actually take pleasure in.
Ihor Verys will get a hug from his crew, Jodi Isenor, after profitable the 2024 Barkley Marathons on his first try.
iRunFar: Operating-wise, what’s subsequent for you? Something you’re wanting ahead to?
Verys: My subsequent few races are going to be native right here in Canada. I might actually like to journey throughout Canada or go to totally different provinces, run races, in these provinces, and take part in these smaller occasions, and help these native race administrators and our native races. I feel they want a whole lot of consideration and we will collectively each develop and develop our sport in Canada. I maintain repeating that Canada’s fairly often within the shadows of ultrarunning. Our ultrarunners are exceptionally gifted. Now we have so a lot of them, however they’re usually forgotten, and I feel bringing some highlight to Canadian races and areas is one thing I might actually like to work on within the subsequent few months.
Then, outdoors of Canada, I’m going to Colorado in September to do the Run Rabbit Run 100 Mile. That’s on the schedule. Apart from that, we will see. My schedule just isn’t set but fully. So, I’m open to strategies.
iRunFar: Do you see your self ever attempting to return to finish Barkley once more, or are you one and glad and completed?
Verys: I’ll by no means reply that query since you’re not purported to share that information. However, you recognize, on loop 4 once more, when issues have been fairly low in some unspecified time in the future, I informed myself that, oh my goodness, I’ll by no means ever do it once more. Why would I put myself by these rings of hell? Nonetheless, after I touched the gate the fifth time, after I was in a position to chat with the older legends of Barkley, after I acquired to expertise not solely the course however all the historical past and all of the individuals concerned in Barkley, all of the tradition. Barkley tradition is so distinctive. It’s so historic. I informed myself, it might be actually cool simply to stay part of this household. We’ll see. Life will present if I’ll find yourself at Frozen Head State Park once more, however you’ve acquired to determine tips on how to get in first. [laughs]
iRunFar: So going away from Barkley particularly, I’d like to know a bit of bit extra about you, your private background, usually and, then, possibly discuss a bit of bit extra about operating. So the place are you from?
Verys: I reside in Canada. Initially, I’m from Ukraine, however I moved to Canada nearly 9 years in the past now.
iRunFar: How outdated have been you then?
Verys: I used to be 21 years outdated. I moved to Canada as a pupil attempting to expertise a brand new tradition, a brand new language, a brand new nation. I actually beloved the individuals and the way they reside right here. I at all times wished to remain right here, and by no means went again. I acquired into operating in all probability a 12 months after I moved to Canada. I’ve by no means run earlier than wherever. I don’t have observe expertise.
iRunFar: Had been you an athlete rising up?
Verys: Soccer, I suppose. We have been all enjoying soccer in Ukraine. It’s our sport. However that’s about it. I wasn’t an athlete. I really hated operating. We had these 3k races in class and I didn’t take pleasure in them in any respect. However then after I moved right here, this was a great alternative for me to search out that psychological well being instrument that can assist me to cope with the stress and challenges of residing in a brand new nation. Operating is a extremely low cost sport and also you want just a few runners, and also you’re all set. So, I began operating, only for enjoyable attempting to clear my thoughts. Finally, I began doing half marathons, marathons, and after COVID-19, I transitioned to trails.
iRunFar: How did you discover the paths? How did you come into that?
Verys: COVID-19 occurred and we weren’t allowed to be outdoors, proper? You have been purported to self-isolate, and when you have been operating on pavement, everybody’s going to see you and everybody’s going to guage you. Like, hey, you’re purported to be inside. You can’t be outdoors. So, I found trails. They have been again in Manitoba, the province the place I used to reside. We had trails simply outdoors of town. So, I can escape to the paths. Nobody’s going to see me there and nobody’s going to guage me, and that’s how I acquired into path operating.
Then, on trails, I bumped into different ultrarunners or path runners, and from them, I realized that individuals can really run greater than a marathon distance. I used to be like, oh, actually? Let me look into it. So, I began exploring it. I used to be like, okay, it seems like I can go additional than marathon distance.
In a while, I tried a quickest recognized time (FKT). It was 125 kilometers, and I felt nice. It was on a well-known path in Manitoba referred to as Mantario Path, and it’s a preferred FKT path. I felt actually good, particularly the second half, and I used to be like, wow, I feel I’m hooked on going lengthy distances now. After that, I moved to British Columbia, within the mountains the place I reside now, and I signed up for my first 100k mountain race, and I ended up profitable it. It was my first extremely, and the remainder is historical past. I’ve been doing these long-distance races ever since, and I’ve been having fun with it.
iRunFar: It’s simply laborious to think about you discovered path operating solely 4 years earlier than ending Barkley. That’s unimaginable.
Verys: Yeah, I suppose it’s a bit lower than 4 years. I by no means consider it that manner. However I suppose you’re proper.
iRunFar: Individuals assume you may want a long time of path and extremely expertise to complete Barkley. Nope, 4 years. And even lower than that for ultrarunning expertise. What was your first ultra-length run? Was it that FKT, or what was your first extremely?
Verys: It was in September 2021. There was a 100k race simply on the island right here, the Finlayson Arm 100k.
iRunFar: So principally two and a half years since your first extremely in September 2021.
Verys: Yeah.
iRunFar: Okay, that’s type of humbling for the remainder of the world.
Verys: [laughs]
Ihor Verys along with his crew, Jodi Isenor, altering garments and refilling his pack between loops.
iRunFar: If I have been you, I’d should be dreaming. Alright, “So what is feasible? I can do that in two and a half years…”
Verys: I really feel unhealthy now. [laughs]
iRunFar: No, you shouldn’t. You’re much more superhuman than you thought you have been.
Verys: I suppose I simply by no means consider it. I at all times assume ahead, and after I end Barkley, I’m like, okay, what’s subsequent? The place do I have to work to enhance? I nonetheless contemplate myself a pupil of the sport. I’m nonetheless studying some issues. Simply because it’s been only some years, and I’m nonetheless studying, okay, what meals will work? What diet, what garments? Ought to I sleep? Ought to I do that? How briskly? How ought to I prepare? I don’t have a coach. So, I’m looking for what works for me the most effective, and I like to be a pupil of the sport. I like to do all these difficult occasions as a result of they at all times reveal your weak spots, particularly in occasions like Barkley. It should undoubtedly present your weak spots, however then you’ll be able to work on them, enhance your self, and make your self even higher for future adventures.
iRunFar: You got here to Canada to review. What have been you learning?
Verys: Worldwide enterprise. I simply did a two-year school program. I had my diploma in Ukraine. I’ve a bachelor’s diploma in worldwide relations. However due to the scenario, due to the revolution we had there, I didn’t need to work for the federal government that was in cost at that time. It was an anti-people authorities. For me, as a possible for future diplomatic envoy, as a result of that’s what the worldwide relations school is instructing you, I didn’t need to characterize that authorities, and due to this fact I made that alternative to return to Canada and take a look at a distinct path in my life. At that time, I used to be solely 21, in order that’s fairly younger. This chance got here up.
iRunFar: What does work appear to be nowadays for you? What subject are you working in?
Verys: I work in insurance coverage, which is so bizarre. I might by no means assume I might find yourself on this subject, however I’m doing business insurance coverage as an account supervisor. I work for a giant, worldwide firm referred to as HUB Worldwide. I spend a whole lot of time within the workplace. Operating helps me, as soon as I’m on the market, to ease the stress. I actually benefit from the outside, and if you spend that a lot time within the workplace, you undoubtedly want the day out.
iRunFar: Yeah, properly, you bought 58 hours and alter of day out this previous week, so good. Ihor, thanks a lot in your time, and congratulations in your Barkley end.
Verys: Thanks, Bryon. It’s an honor and pleasure. I actually respect your curiosity in my journey.
